Saturday, April 19, 2008

A poll re: the puzzle ribbon logo

Just a quick poll: For or against the puzzle ribbon?

Give reasons why, if possible. My personal stance is that I'm for it. It's the easiest way to spread positive awareness in my opinion and don't see any negatives about it. I've read that it's "only used by those promoting a cure for autism", which is the most incorrect statement I've ever come across regarding it.

9 comments:

Club 166 said...

Against. I don't lecture people about it or anything, but I've never displayed one.

I think that the puzzle ribbon tends to marginalize autistics as "puzzles" that have to be figured out, rather than them being real people who just think a bit differently.

Joe

geosaru said...

I agree with club 166. While I don't get mad at people using it, since that would be silly, the puzzle thing gets pretty old. I also wonder what good it does in promoting actual awareness versus promoting an inflatable ribbon-"awareness" culture as described here. I dunno. Other people have written more eloquently on this matter.

Joeymom said...

Depends on use. I originally thought of it not as referring to people, but to autism itself- a bright puzzle, where I need to piece together educational methods, services, school personnel, law, and my child's individual needs and strengths in order to support and educate him.

Then there was the series of images at Autism Speaks of kids with one piece missing. I didn't care for that. All people are puzzles in their own way, not just autistic people; and autistic people don't have a piece missing.

It has become highly recognizable, so works well for getting attention and getting people onto a conversation about autism. On the other hand, Kristina at Autism Vox makes very good points about the trite banality such conversations often begin with- if they begin at all. Is it now being used to spread a stereotype more than begin a useful discussion?

VAB said...

Against for the same reasons as Joe. I prefer the neurodiversity rainbow mobius strip.

Casdok said...

Im with all of the above!

Kassiane said...

Against. It dates back to the old ASA logo of kids with pieces missing from their heads, and the ghastly puzzle brain pins and the "mysterious disorder" garbage.

I'm not a puzzle, I am a PERSON. We don't need solving.

And besides, awareness is a kind of silly thing. It's one of those words that means absolutely nothing.

codeman38 said...

Yeah, pretty much what everyone else had said (sorry, I'm a bit late on this, I realize!)...

I don't get angry with people about it, but I don't wear/display them myself.

My issue, as with a few previous commenters, isn't with autism being depicted as puzzling (heck, I find it puzzling sometimes, and I'm autistic!), but with the fact that there seems to be a subtext that autistics are mere puzzles. There's already been the discussion of older logos depicting people with pieces missing, but even now, look at the shape of Autism Speaks' logo... surely that particular puzzle configuration, which subliminally suggests a body with a head, arms and legs, wasn't just chosen by coincidence.

Phil Schwarz said...

I agree with Joe too.

Navi said...

ASA seems to have changed its stance however... and isn't the symbol the ASA's symbol? I've seen it used all over, though...

I'm about neutral on it. The positive is people know what it means. Most people would have no clue about the mobius strip.

I read somewhere that it is depictive that autism is a spectrum disorder and that every person with autism is different, just like every puzzle piece is different. With that meaning, it's a bit more benign.